Resident asks City Council to remove Pledge of Allegiance

January 12, 2010

By Warren Kagarise

A city resident asked the City Council to drop the Pledge of Allegiance from meetings last week — less than a month after he asked the Issaquah School Board to remove the pledge from its meetings.

Moments after council and audience members recited the 31-word pledge, longtime Issaquah Highlands resident Matt Barry said the pledge should be eliminated, because the oath is offensive to atheists and irrelevant to city business.

“You are here to discuss transportation, services, operations, etc.,” Barry said during the Jan. 4 meeting. “Taking a position on religious questions such as this, whether this nation is under zero, one or more gods is, literally, none of the government’s business.

“The words ‘under God,’ which were added to the pledge in 1954, are offensive to many atheists,” Barry said. “And it’s offensive that our government officials, the mayor and City Council, ask atheists to stand and declare a belief in a god.”

The pledge and whether the oath should be recited in public schools and government meetings is a frequent flashpoint.

Barry referenced a 2002 ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, when a three-judge panel declared the pledge unconstitutional because the language included “under God.” The circuit includes Washington and eight other Western states.

Atheist Michael Newdow brought on the case after his daughter was taught the pledge in a California school district. The ruling was reversed on a procedural matter in 2004, after the U.S. Supreme Court said Newdow lacked the standing to bring the suit on behalf of his daughter.

Barry described the original pledge language as inoffensive.

“I should clarify that I have no problems with the original pledge,” he said. “The original pledge, which was recited from 1892 to 1954, did not mention God. Depending on your age, your grandparents, parents or you yourself recited a godless pledge as schoolchildren back in the 1920s, ’30s, ’40s or early ’50s.”

“I’ve always thought that if a godless pledge was good enough for the World War I and World War II generations, it should be good enough for us,” Barry added.

Longtime City Council members said the request to remove the pledge from meetings was the first in memory.

Council President John Traeger, elevated to the top council spot at the meeting, said the council had no plans yet to discuss the pledge issue.

On Dec. 9, Barry asked the Issaquah School Board to remove the pledge from meetings. Barry, a district parent, said “the words ‘under God’ in the pledge are offensive to your atheist residents in this school district.”

The board indicated members could address the pledge issue in the future.

State law requires public school students to recite the pledge and conduct flag salute exercises at the start of each school day, but schools cannot force students to participate. Local government meetings are not required to include the pledge.

Mayor Ava Frisinger — elected to office in 1997 and re-elected since — said she could not recall a challenge to the pledge during her years as mayor, or when she served as a councilwoman beforehand.

“When I say we’re going to do the pledge, I invite people to join us,” Frisinger said.

Rowan Hinds, mayor from 1990-97, said council meeting attendees never raised the pledge issue when he served as mayor, although high school students questioned the invocations in the mid- and early ’90s. Hinds said the council faces important issues, and the pledge issue could be a distraction.

Before Frisinger ascended to the top spot, council meetings opened with invocations. Frisinger recalled how the prayer made some meeting attendees uncomfortable. She then consulted with council members, and officials agreed to drop invocations from meetings.

Barry also referenced the anti-discrimination resolution passed by the council in 2002. The resolution includes protections for race, religion and other characteristics.

“I don’t think anyone would conclude that the city is doing its best to treat atheists with dignity and respect by asking them to stand and contradict their personally held beliefs,” Barry said. “On the contrary, it has been blatantly disrespectful and therefore a violation of your own anti-discrimination resolution.”

Flag law

State law includes rules for presentation and salute to the U.S. flag in public schools, though the flag and Pledge of Allegiance are not required at local government meetings.

The law also requires the national and state flags to be “prominently installed, displayed and maintained in schools, courtrooms and state buildings.”

The law calls for a U.S. flag to be displayed during school hours on or near every public school campus, except during inclement weather. The school day must begin with “appropriate flag exercises to be held in each classroom” and to open all school assemblies. Students who abstain from the pledge “shall maintain a respectful silence,” the law states.

Changes to the pledge

Since the original pledge debuted, the language evolved during more than 50 years to the modern-day Pledge of Allegiance.

1892: Minister Francis Bellamy writes the pledge. The original oath read: “I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”

1923: National Flag Conference adds the words “the Flag of the United States of America” to the oath.

1942: Congress recognizes the Pledge of Allegiance as the official national pledge.

1954: Congress adds “under God” to pledge, creating the modern-day pledge still used today.

Warren Kagarise: 392-6434, ext. 234, or Comment at

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2 Responses to “Resident asks City Council to remove Pledge of Allegiance”

  1. Hifi on January 13th, 2010 11:25 am

    Can’t argue with Barry’s reasoning. Only someone interested in having the government promote their personal position on religion would object.

  2. GJWS on January 22nd, 2010 5:21 am

    As an immigrant to the US I was proud to make my first pledge of allegiance on June 6th 2005 at my citizenship ceremony in Providence, RI.

    On the occassions I go to my town council in Newport, RI it is one of the few opportunities I get to publicly exercise my allegiance. Most days I privately exercise it as I sit at my desk in the morning and look at my US flags. One flown over the Capitol in commemoration of my citizenship day and another from the casket of a Pearl Harbor veteran.

    Personally I think it is a good thing to remind all present at the start of council that we are SUPPOSED to be pulling for the common good!

    I will admit that like Mr Barry I’m not wild about the reference to God. However I exercise a some discretion and modify my pledge slightly and I take the “BG” version. I also believe that Eisenhower was wrong to join church and state in the pledge by adding the words “under God”. But my omission makes me (in my mind) no less loyal to the Flag.

    Mr Barry why don’t you chisel the words “In God we Trust” off all the coins in your pocket and snip the words off the dollar bills?

    Mr Barry should also feel free to take the pledge prior to going to the beach or a play and should also feel free to “maintain a respectful silence” in council if it offends him so much.

    Mr Barry – I respect your first amendment right to raise the issue. I’ll now offer you the following first amendment backed opinion:

    “Skip council and don’t waste time or city money there – try and take it straight to the Supreme Court so Issaquah can get on with governing itself.”


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